Together with SanSheng, plan to destroy’s Ward

Together with SanSheng, plan to destroy's Ward

This article is translated from SanSheng’s post on

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First, let’s recall these quotes from members:

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They didn’t surprise us at all – we knew well what they were going to do and how, and they didn’t find a solution to that.
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We even joked and laughed about it during the game.
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Actually, we were forced to win in 15 minutes, but couldn’t because of communication and error handling errors. But we also ended the match in a logical way
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Coordination, skill and understanding of Dota. It wasn’t great when we were playing against Chinese teams, I don’t know why.
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In the last game, they even let him hold the Broodmother, so we won’t be using CW with them anymore

The above quotes come from the interview after’s victory over VGJ.Thunder at the Bucharest Major.

After mocking Chinese teams, VP started talking about WESG

Question: will you guys attend WESG?

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We will attend WESG. Hopefully everyone will compete there – the WESG prize pool is twice as big as the Major!

Our Chinese teams have won TI 3 times and won 3 TI silver medals. Who are you guys mocking when you yourself have never appeared in the finals of TI?

Every year, when it’s only half a year away from TI, there’s always a Russian team ‘trash talk’ and extremely arrogant, thinking they’re the best team in the world. In the end, it only lasted 2-3 months before they started to fall apart and force a roster change.

You will pay the price for your arrogance. See you at TI8!

My years of experience as a player and coach have allowed me to draw this conclusion: in a match, there are many factors that are more important than the skill of the players. One of them is vision! When a player is overwhelmed, it’s not just his personal skill. Other reasons include tactical placement, hero counters, gameplay, resource allocation, etc. Even if you think this player is a noob, with TI approaching, roster changes don’t make sense. think a bit. Therefore, be more open. Do all you can to improve the team, for example sharing your experiences or encouraging your teammates.

Each time you are dewarded, it means the opponent will know your move. Whether it’s jungling, ganking, smoking or pushing turrets, the enemy knows it. Especially when you’re at a disadvantage, your support doesn’t dare to go ward on its own. Therefore, going up against someone like Solo – who is very good at breaking wards – is a difficult challenge.

I researched VP’s wards and found that they wards very systematically and are easy to catch. As a professional support player, I hope that my analysis of VP, as well as my knowledge of how VP’s wards work, will help Chinese teams deal well with VP and increase their team’s warding ability. Here’s what I hope I can do to protect China’s Dota glory

VP ward analysis

After a brief study of VP’s matches at PGL, they enjoyed playing on Radiant’s side.

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At PGL, VP mainly plays on Radiant side. There were only two games they played on Dire’s side, including a win and a loss.

I realized that when VP plays with Radiant, even though the warding is very mischievous, they are still systematic. From my observations, if the Chinese teams had studied VP’s wards before the game, the results of PGL would have been different.

1. Obsever Ward keeps Roshan and Dire’s top lane

At this Major, VP placed wards almost exactly the same in all games. This is the place to ward before winning Roshan (1 minute after what you see from the screenshot, VP takes advantage of the vision from this ward and quickly kills three VG.J heroes from the Centaur + AA combo). When you’re up against VP, there’s no harm in placing wards here in the mid game. Your reward is not only 100 gold from dewarding.

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Before VP rosh, they smoked and planted wards here, thereby helping the team win the match

Here’s one of VP’s favorite wards while roshan: the Ancient area on top of Dire.

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This is one of VP’s favorite ward positions. It reads the moves of heroes on Dire’s side from above.

2. Usually uses the obsever ward to keep an eye on Dire’s jungle

VP prioritizes vision in the Dire forest area. When the match started to get tense between the two sides, they enjoyed warding in the Dire forest. This ward position rarely changes.

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When entering the Dire forest from the mid lane, the path is wards between the two camps in the forest
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This position rarely changes
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Still the same location… They change every once in a while, but can be found with just 1 sentry…

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Sometimes here, sometimes there, but all detectable with just 1 sentry…

3. Visibility in Dire forest area under bot

When VP has the advantage, they prioritize vision around the jungle area under the bot. They always use vision to capture core heroes while farming in this area. However, the creativity of the team when warding in this area is not new. The ward placement remains the same in many games.

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Position of the first ward. This position can be placed in a hidden position and does not obstruct the camp, so it is difficult to detect
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Second ward placement. As you can see, these two positions are easy to deward with only 1 sentry

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3rd ward placement
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The ward placement is extremely effective in the ancient Radiance

4. “Advantage” of wards in the lane right behind the tower

When VP has the advantage in any lane and wants to push that lane, they usually put a ward right behind the previous turret…

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First ward placement, behind Dire .’s mid lane

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The ward position in the top lane behind the turret allows VP to overtake Liquid

5. Other jungle ward positions

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Top lane near turret 2 in the jungle
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Only move about half a meter

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This Sentry is the best place to plug in if you want to try dewarding. Any ward on the left or right side will give you 100 gold
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Location of the Radiant forest ward. Very popular

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Place the ward right next to the shrine, it doesn’t matter if it’s dewarded or not


VP has some unique observer ward placement properties:

  1. Ward is extremely deep. They usually put an obsever ward behind the previous 2 turret, even before your 1 turret falls. Similarly, before your 2nd turret falls, they have placed a ward on the High ground. Since these wards are very deep, they are often dangerous and difficult to deward. Has anyone put sentry right in their base in the first 10 minutes of the game?
  2. Stable position. As you can see, wards are always in familiar places. It’s the same in all games, with a few minor changes.
  3. They ward off wards in the back of trees and in hiding, that’s why their ward positions don’t change.

Next time you face VP, put some sentry in a good position. Taking away their vision is no longer a dream. I’ll show you a few wards that can be placed after clearing a tree:

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Destroy the tree as shown in the picture. After breaking, you can plant wards here for good visibility (picture below)

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So beautiful!Cùng SanSheng phân tích phá Ward của 27 - Emergenceingame

The next ward is for vision, as well as for blocking camp.

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Eat this tree
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Just block the camp and have a vision
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Obsever ward as you can see in the picture blocks the camp, but the sentry’s position is not

The following wards can be plugged directly and do not need to be cut.

The position of the ward in the high ground Dire top

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Placement of wards in the top lane highround

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This ward gives a wide view, not only seeing the river area, but also a small part of the Dire . forest

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The ward placement is very common near the bottom rune
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The ward placement is extremely popular in the upper river
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Location for ancient Radiance views and access to the campsites from the mid forest
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The ward position is extremely popular in Ancient

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Ward position between T2 Radiant tower and facing ancient

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Area view around ancient and river

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View around ancient and river

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This ward not only shows you the secret shop, but you also see the entrance to the Roshan pit as well as the back of the Roshan pit
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Extremely difficult position to deward in Dire . Forest

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Extremely difficult position to deward in Dire . Forest
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You not only see the dire forest area, but also the direction towards Roshan

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The ward is very effective on the high ground, not only is it difficult to ward, it also shows visibility into the mid lane, river, and rune position. The vision of this ward is huge

Ward position in Radiant top lane in turret 2

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The ward position of the image above (camera in the lower part)
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The position of the ward is in the top lane behind the turrets on both sides of the Radiant
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Ward placement in Radiant forest, wide field of view (needs to destroy 2 trees)

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Ward mid and jungle

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Ward in mid and jungle

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Place wards in the top lane behind Radiant’s 2nd turret

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Place the ward in the top lane behind Dire’s turret 2 and head into the jungle
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Dire top lane jungle entry location and Radiant 1 turret vision
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Radiant forest ward position (wide view)
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At night time, you can place wards in front of turret 1 of Dire bot lane, very hard to deward

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The location of the ward is in the direction of the Radiant forest

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Location of Dire . forest ward
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Location of Dire . forest ward
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Position ward vision just outside the Dire mid and bot lane high ground (a little opening to see Shadow Shaman)

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Breaking the tree here allows to place wards with a better range
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Ward here will give a view of the Radiant secret shop, Bounty Rune and towards Roshan

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Ward here will give a view of the Radiant secret shop, Bounty Rune and towards Roshan

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Finally, best wishes to the Chinese team! We have bolded Dota 2 into our bodies, infiltrated our blood and bones. Let’s protect the glory of the Chinese teams of the ‘odd years’ together.

My name is Newbee.SanSheng, and my name is engraved on Aegis.

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